Toros still young and hasnt gotten a huge opportunity yet in Houston but to think we may have gotten our 3rd baseman of the future for a pitcher on an expiring contract, Id say, not a shabby deal. In case you might have forgotten, this is likely Seagers last year in Seattle. If he does, he could help replace the production they lost earlier this winter when they traded Hunter Renfroe to the Los Angeles Angels. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. I understand it has been a long time but really dipoto needs to do everything to build a good team around kelenic, Julio, Gilbert, hancook, Kirby and the other young guys they have. However, blocking some types of cookies may impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer. After completing his collegiate season, selected by the Astros in the fifth round of the draft on June 10signed on June 20 and reported to Rookie Level Greenevilleplayed in 44 games for the Astros, but did not hit a home run. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. I liked Dipoto until he did this. But after a big trade Tuesday afternoon where players walked across the field to opposite clubhouses, things didnt go the Mariners way as they lost the next two games to drop the series. . Perhaps that personal exp is still too close to evaluate Sea properly today? The young mans 22 and over his head at the ML level. Im surprised. I know emotions are high, but Abraham Toro lengthens this lineup. vs. DET 4 AB, 0 H, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 0 SB, Rookie Status: January 22, 2019: Brandon Gustafson details how that can impact the Seahawks. They can always pick up another arm still. Astros made out like bandits by getting a great closer and were able to rid themselves of a prospect with no signs of progress. We are just being reactionary because its easy. I doubt if DiPoto is done.look for relievers headed to Seattle for prospects. He built the system up and so far he hasnt let 100 games of success ruin the long term plan. I think hes clearly better than his numbers show. Toro The Terrific - Reached base safely via hit, walk or hit-by-pitch in first 18 games after joining the Marinersduring that span, hit .344 (22x64) with 11 runs, 5 doubles, 3 home runs, 8 RBI, 9 walks and 2 hit-by-pitches with Seattlehe got on-base at a .440 clip, slugged .563 and carried a 1.003 OPS. It never changes. They may have been headed to the playoffs before this move, but now they wont because of this move. Now they are going to trade for a cheap reliever with remaining control. We present them here for purely educational purposes. !Why would you trade arguably the best closer in baseball this year to a division rival team your trying to chase. But this one hurts the most and is the most (expletive) up. No they didnt lol. That keeps the pressure off the players, manager / coaches, FO staff and yourself. Now, its up to each team to develop their plan for the acquired players. DiPoto better be gone next year.This doesnt make any sense. We will see how it all shakes out. I fail to see how this helps the Mariners. Which three teams made your cut? On September 1, Toro played his second game in his . This transaction is just one piece of a puzzle that will come into view by Friday eve. Smith is washed up. But he blew this one. Abraham Toro-Hernandez's net worth is $3,043,603. Toro also is a third basemen (not a second) so when Seager leaves next year, boom. February 9, 2023: Canada activated 3B Abraham Toro. 22,032nd in major league history) Both teams won. And even if he remains good for the next two months, he probably still leaves. Draft: Drafted by the Houston Astros in the 5th round of the 2016 MLB June Amateur Draft from Seminole State College (Seminole, OK). Out of the MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, and heck, even PGAthe NBA is the most unwatchable sport. Toro couldnt even make the opening day roster and was sent to AAA while a bum like Robel Garcia made the roster. Good on James Click to improve the team and stay under the tax because this year, Graveman is essentially working for free in MLB terms (1.25 million.) Teoscar was a much more well regarded prospect than Toro. After dropping the first game of the homestand to the Oakland Athletics, the Mariners went on to win the next three games to take the series. These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. The Mariners would be wise to pair Wong with a right-handed platoon partner, as he has generally been a below-average contributor versus southpaws. Watch this space, lol. Also, the Ms have a run differential of -52, so the likelihood of them making it this year is highly unlikely. Always trading off the few decent players they developed for more youngsters that were gonna be real, real good.in just a few years.just you watch! Theres no guarantee that Jerry would be willing to pay the massive contract that Gravemen will surely command in the offseason, and he will. 2. a young infielder, controllable for many years, who was as high as #5 in Astros prospect list and was ranked as a Tier 2 Prospect (Above-average chance of being a solid big-leaguer) by Prospects 1500. Theyre not basically calling them bums indirectly lmao, I dont really see how this helps the Ms. Many historical player head shots courtesy of David Davis. Value - Recorded 0.8 fWAR after joining the Mariners on July 27, tied for 4th-most among Mariners position players during that span (also: Mitch Haniger), trailing only Ty France (1.9), J.P. Crawford (1.5) and Kyle Seager (1.1). The players were pissed their veteran closer got traded to a divisional rival for a prospect in the middle of a playoff race while theyre playing a series against them. 1 spot in NFL Draft impacts the Seahawks. Abraham Toro makes $1,250,000.00 this year. Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. Toro, who turns 26 next month, was a key to the deal from Milwaukee's perspective, since he has experience at both second base and . Anderson has lost both times hes pitched, the bull pin has given up at least or three leads since this awful trade. Some times, a hitter just needs a change of scenery. In that deal, Seattle acquired 14-year veteran Joe Smith and 24-year-old infielder Abraham Toro, who is under contract through 2025. Even if it results in something else like Turner or etc,I would not have moved Graveman in a playoff push. Im pissed. Split his second professional season between Class A Short-Season Tri-City and Class A Quad Cities, combining to hit .246 (59x240) with 11 doubles, 15 home runs, 33 RBI and an .859 OPS in 69 games. Servais is OK hes a pretty good manager but Dipoto must GO! Can we say Team control is the reason this happens. Do you have a sports website? And by the looks of it theyre not done adding arms, they have the firepower to pull off Kimbrel and Scherzer if they wanted. Boy that would probably be a first. Some of that has been attributable to a sky-high .413 batting average on balls in play, but Smith is sporting a career-low strikeout rate, a grounder rate thats well off his peak levels and has also been quite homer-prone. I like what weve done assembling this current team. I dont know why people on here always say baseball should take a page out of the NBA. Toro, 24, hasnt yet pieced things together in limited big league action, but hes decimated Triple-A pitching (.392/.497/.600 in 33 games) and posted strong numbers in pitcher-friendly Double-A settings (.282/.369/.468 in 148 games). I believe Jerry thinks he is playing Mlb The Show instead of management in the real world. He is a third baseman in the MLB. Graveman only became a reliever last year, and has been lights out. Toro isnt upgrading 2nd base or anywhere. Not to say that the NBA keeps it simple either, but MLB is hardly the standard for simple and straightforward transactions and contracts. If not then it makes sense to me to give up 2 months of Graveman for 4 years and 2 months of a guy who projects to possibly be a switch-hitting Kyle Seager type hitter with the ability to play 2nd base. The Astros have a loaded lineup but needed pitching help, especially in the bullpen. Also the Astros bullpen outside of Pressley, Graveman and young starters pressed into pen duty is so weak,theyll give him a long hard look to turn it around. Double Double - Went 3-for-4 with 2 doubles on 8/1 at Texas. Just never got a chance playing behind some good hitters in HOU. Why not? Capable of becoming a regular and more. Hence.this trade. Logos were compiled by the amazing SportsLogos.net. Unprecedented access to athlete representation information, gambling insights and exclusive content. 6 de julio de 2018: 3B Abraham Toro asignado a Corpus Christi Hooks de Buies Creek Astros. To see him traded to the division-leading Astros while the two squads are playing one another is downright jarring. Signed a one-year contract on 1/13/23, avoiding arbitration. I think they could have received more for graveman. Sense of perspective? Positions: A good, not great prospect who is hopelessly blocked at the big league level and needs every day at bats to continue to develop. Really, unless Dipoto has another move to make involving one of the players just acquired, this is quite a gut-punch to the players RIGHT AFTER LAST NIGHTS INCREDIBLY EMOTIONAL COMEBACK AGAINST THE TEAM YOU JUST TRADED WITH!!! Money that could be allocated to other more important areas of the roster such as the starting rotation. With Seager and a prospect or two they could get another SP. Such is the fast-paced life in the Majors, but it's hardly an inconvenience for the 24-year-old infielder, who has been brimming since a July 27 trade that brought him to the Mariners-- and for good reason, beyond his naturally positive-outlooking personality.Toro entered Saturday's game against his former teammates hitting .309/.398/.481 (.879 OPS) and had reached base in all but one of . I guess so Steve but Ive seen toro for awhile and I mean, hes okay but nothing special. I agree 100%. Ten bucks says they get Fry or Scott from the Orioles. Love this deal for us. I agree. I love challenge trades but these are kinda known-quantities. Basically calling them bums indirectly. Then I thought about all the moves that have got us to this point in the season. Unless there gonna include Toro and a package for Kimbrell ,I dont get it at all. Im assuming Dipoto just overvalued Toro and thinks Joe Smith can bounce back and put up graveman stats. Milwaukee Brewers optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Nashville Sounds. Do you have a blog? Theres no chance our return is an underwhelming Toro for arguably the top non-Kimbrel bullpen arm traded at the deadline. Maybe the Astros re-sign him in the offseason. These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. Good Stretch - Batted .400 (10x25) with 4 doubles and 6 RBI over six-game stretch from Sept. 4-10. So, last year Toro was the #3 ranked prospect in Houstons system, per Fangraphs. Abraham Toro was optioned to Triple-A in the corresponding move. In a few years Mariners ownership can do what the Padres did give Jerry an ultimatum to win or else, give him a big payroll budget, and have him trade a grab bag of his overrated prospects for veterans to teams that cant afford their salaries and have the personnel to develop the youngsters correctly even though they wont be the big stars they were sold as (run on sentencebut you get the idea). The switch-hitting Toro then got the start at second in the series finale while hitting fifth in the order, and all he did was blast his second home run as a Mariner. By Steve Adams | July 27, 2021 at 6:07pm CDT. He was one of their best trade chips. While the NBA continues to blow away MLB, NHL, and even the PGA in viewership every year. All rights reserved. Right now it doesnt make sense, but lets wait until Friday. Use of any marks, trademarks, or logos on this website shall not constitute a sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. Not sure we needed this Anderson but hes lost both times hes started so.???? Tweets by spotrac. Montero was good with Texas and if pitcher whisperer Strom could get him back on track, starting with dropping the sinker. They turned out to be a farm club at the ML level for the other teams. I think it is a good move too. 25 AB)trailing only Ken Griffey Sr.s .472 (17x36) batting average in his first 10 games with Seattle from Aug. 31-Sept. 14, 1990. Canadian Clique - Was one of three Canadians to appear for the Mariners in 2021 (also: James Paxton and Matt Brash) and one of 15 in franchise history. Yes Graveman maybe one of the better closers this year, but that doesnt help when Montero blows the lead in the 7th inning. The Astros got what they needed without giving up one of the prospects they really are counting on in the future like Pena, Brown, Leon, Korey Lee, etc. Ok, hes good but dang it Gravemean and Montero and Chargois? In that deal, Seattle acquired 14-year veteran Joe Smith and 24-year-old infielder Abraham Toro, who is under contract through 2025. well I think Sea is building really really well. Toro goes in a package to Washington for trey turner, In other news Trey Turner just got tooken out the game, is this Jerry,s next move, 6th grade was the best 5 years of my life. Nope headed to LA with Scherzer for Ruiz, Lux, and Gray. I think both teams benefit from this trade, just to different degrees and in different ways: Houston is a contender whose weakness was their bullpen. Self promotion is the only thing they get right. Browse our online application for MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, EPL, or MLS player contracts, salaries, transactions, and more. And Hector Santiago has served his ridiculous suspension. So either Torrens or Seager is getting traded because Im not seeing the path to playing time for Toro? Theres no question we got better. Not sad to see Joe Smith go. All the RPs who have said our Org has helped them become better. I said its possible he is able to find success now that he appears to get a decent chance. Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Monday, May 1, 12:21AM. Dating back to his shift to the bullpen in 2020, hes compiled 43 innings of 1.47 ERA ball. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. 3B Abraham Toro-Hernandez assigned to Quad Cities River Bandits from Tri-City ValleyCats. Will the Ms flip Toro in a package for Trea Turner? Its really very obvious. The big news from this homestand is that that the Mariners were very active in the trade market. Its not like he was trying to troll his own plays or fans. 2023-2023 Arbitration High School: Vanier SS (St. Laurent, QC), School: Seminole State College (Seminole, OK), Debut: money might be involved because the team option becomes player option Dipoto has lost a few trades but is way ahead on wins. Mariners won. Maybe a change of scenery. One game out of wildcard and trade one of the best closers in the game to division rival that desperately needs one for a prospect that has struggled for 3 straight years at the major league level and a aging reliever that is a shell of his former self. Theres nothing sugar coat. In exchange for an unproven player who doesnt make the Ms a better team NOW. August 1, 2019: 3B Abraham Toro assigned to Round Rock Express from Corpus Christi Hooks. Im glad to get rid of Gas Can Montero. You have got to be kidding me!Why? Only time will tell how this trade works out for both involved trading teams. . Toros future is ahead. Jerry still seems like he likes to gamble its just no longer at the High roller tables , good for US-. Houston Astros invited non-roster 3B Abraham Toro to spring training. The Astros upgraded their bullpen a bit with the addition of Graveman. They both did well in this trade. Looney Platoons - All 11 of Toros home runs in 2021 were against right-handed pitchers, batting .233 (52x223)against lefties he hit .250 (27x108) with 5 doubles. Aledyms Diaz hasnt been blocking anybody since possibly the 1st half of his rookie year with STL. The clubhouse is going to be hot. These cookies allow us to count visits and traffic sources so we can measure and improve the performance of our site. 22 de enero de 2019: Houston Astros invitado fuera del roster 3B Abraham Toro para spring training. Milwaukee Brewers optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Nashville Sounds. The Astros certainly would rather have kept Toro than Diaz. He has struck out 86 while walking 25 in 18 starts. Wow. The Mariners have long needed help in the lineup as they have ranked near the bottom of the league in most offensive categories all year. Toro was sent to AAA for opening day because the front office wanted him to play every day, because they saw him as a future big leaguer that still needed some experience and development. See JD Martinez. 3B Abraham Toro asignado a Round Rock Express de Corpus Christi Hooks. $1.25 million contract with the Brewers for the 2023 season, avoiding salary arbitration. Already Subscribed? How much longer do you think the Angels will waste Mike Trouts career? OF Sal Frelick reassigned to Minor League camp. Maybe they see Toro as a player who, along with Austin Shenton and maybe Noelvi Marte, might help solidify 3B for them once Kyle Seager is gone although Ive been a Mariners fan since the franchise started, and would love to see a trade or two designed to help the Ms NOW. Dont try to sugarcoat it. We have or had already good hitting all up and down our lineup Abraham we didnt really need. Seattle may seem like longshots for the division (as well as a wild card), but they have one of the weakest strength of schedules remaining and they just proved they can challenge two of the best teams in the league. To trade Wilmer back home to Queens. Uhm what? 1. a very effective relief pitcher who will be a free agent at the end of the season Livid in fact. The Ms are only one game behind the second WC but they have a negative run differential and have the Yankees and blue Jays only about 2-3 games behind them, fangraphs gives them 6% playoff odds. You got an elite arm in Graveman and believe me, it stings just as bad if not more. In exchange youre getting 5 years of a young guy whose floor at this point is a solid utility infielder. Brandon Gustafson looks at the Good, Bad and Ugly from the first 7 games. @nevibes One AB makes a player good.???? Toro doesnt have to be good to be an upgrade to the Ms offense. . That said, $1.5MM of those are tied up in games finished, and manager Dusty Baker has already indicated that Ryan Pressly is likely to continue as his closer. MLB.TV, via Rosenthal, reporting that Turner was taken out for a medical reason.. extensive sports information on the web. He's entering the final season of his contract, during which he'll earn $10 million. Most teams 9-10 games above .500 are buyers, but not the Ms. view 1 MLB Payroll Tracker; If so, what are they trading to the Pirates? Its true: some players after being traded by their original team. Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. I hope youre right as I tend to be on the longterm outlook of deals and I dont like this one at all. The good news for the Mariners is that help is on the way in the form of a new face. Groz Remembers 2001 Mariners: When Ichiro became Ichiro. Diaz is a better hitter and can play IF + OF. The Astros only have one weakness -their pen, so why would you make them better? Graveman 0.5 bWAR Browse our online application for MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, EPL, or MLS player contracts, salaries, transactions, and more. MLB needs to take a leaf from the NBA to protect players from talentless hacks like Dipoto. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. On the surface, I question this deal but fully expect Dipoto to do something else. Toro is a potential replacement for Seager either this season if Seager is traded or next when they inevitably decline his option. Spent his first full season in the Majors, making his first career OPENING DAY rosterbatted .149 (13x87) with three home runs and nine RBIAppeared in 33 games (19 starts), making 10 starts at 3B, six at DH, two at 1B and one at 2BDrew a walk in his first career POSTSEASON appearance in Game 3 of the ALCS. Mar 29 2023 Cesar Salazar Contract purchased by Houston (HOU) View More. Abraham Toro was drafted by the Houston Astros in the 5th round of the 2016 MLB June Amateur Draft from Seminole State College (Seminole, OK). Got to look at the big picture. Ok, the Ms traded a pending FA. What they dont need is more lottery tickets. After the trade: Toro signed a one-year, $1.25 million contract with the Brewers on Friday to avoid arbitration, Robert Murray of FanSided.com reports. Hit .252 (57x226) with 28 runs, 11 doubles, 5 home runs, 26 RBI, 3 stolen bases and 22 walks in 60 games with the Mariners. Search. Find Abraham Toro-Hernandez total career earnings, contracts & net worth breakdown. However, blocking some types of cookies may impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer. Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times first tweeted that Toro and a reliever were going to the Mariners in exchange for two players. December 20, 1996 All images are property the copyright holder and are displayed here for informational purposes only. But they always were telling us that they were bringing in good young players, and the fans were walking around saying That teams gonna be real good in 2-3 years. Are you a brand looking to get in contact with an athletes agent or manager? Seattle Mariners optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Tacoma Rainiers. WTF were you thinking? Furthermore, the Astros unloaded Smith and took a lotto ticket on Montero. Abraham Toro was born December 20, 1996, in Longueuil, Quebec, Canada. For those watching Nationals games it was obvious this guy was something special even better than Harper. 3B Abraham Toro assigned to Sugar Land Skeeters from Astros Alternate Training Site. Does this end Mariners pursuit of Whit Merrifield? I hope the wallet comes out as soon as next yearWe shall see, these things can never be assumed. Fire his butt! August 1, 2019: 3B Abraham Toro assigned to Round Rock Express from Corpus Christi Hooks. They both benefit from this trade, just in different ways and to different degrees. This move looks a lot more like selling than buying. The Mets gave away Paul Sewald, who is apparently the new closer. Was named the Astros Minor League Player of the Year and made his Major League debut with the Astros in August as part of a breakout season that saw him advance from Double A to the Majorsmade 20 starts for the Astros in August and September (all at third base), with the Astros going 14-6 in those gamesbegan the season at Double A Corpus Christi following his first appearance at Major League Spring Training camp was promoted to Triple A Round Rock on Aug. 1was selected to the Major League roster on Aug. 22made his MLB debut in a start at third base on Aug. 22 vs. LAA, going 0x4became the fourth Canadian-born player to make his MLB debut with the Astrosalso RHP Jason Green (2000), RHP Gordi Pladson (1979) and OF Terry Puhl (1977)became the eighth Canadian-born player to appear in a game for Houston, and the first since LHP Erik Bedard in 2013was the first position player to appear in a game for the Astros since OF Terry Puhl (1977-80)recorded his first Major League hit on Aug. 23 vs. LAA as part of a 2x4 gameposted his first-career RBI on Aug. 25 vs. LAAwent 1x2 with three walks and his first-career Major League home run on Aug. 29 vs. TBjoined OF Terry Puhl as the only Canadian-born players in Astros history to hit a home runbecame the youngest Canadian-born player all-time with three walks and a home run in a single game, surpassing Russell Martin, who did so at 25 years of age on April 30, 2008 for the Dodgershit a two-out, two-run homer in the 9th inning off Jays closer RHP Ken Giles on Sept. 1 at TOR, snapping a 0-0 scoreless tie in what became RHP Justin Verlander's third-career no-hitterwas inserted into the starting lineup after Yuli Gurriel was scratched pregame with a left elbow contusion also made the final out of the no-hitter, a 5-3 putoutbecame the fifth Canadian-born player in MLB history to hit two home runs over his first eight MLB gamesalso Danny Klassen (3), Joey Votto, Brett Lawrie and Dave McKayin 114 minor league games between Triple A Round Rock (16g) and Double A Corpus Christi (98g), hit .324 with 31 doubles, 4 triples, 17 homers, 80 RBI and a .938 OPS (.411 OBP/.527 SLG)was a Double A Texas League Midseason and Postseason All-Star after batting .306 with 16 home runs and a .906 OPS (.393 OBP/.513 SLG) in 98 games with the Hookshit .424 in limited action at Triple A (16 games)during his 16 games at Triple A, ranked among the top-three Pacific Coast League hitters in hits (28), batting average and OBP (.506)was named the Texas League Player of the Week for the week of May 6-12hit .381 with two homers and eight RBI in six games during the weekled the Texas League in OPS and OBP while ranking second in batting average and slugging percentagerecorded five hits on Aug. 8 while playing for Triple A Round Rock.
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