leaving independent fundamental baptist church

Podcast dedicated to my experiences of being a member of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church (IFBC), my decision to leave, and life after. I am a musician, so really wouldnt be very content in a church where I couldnt play an instrument and never did go there, except to attend her funeral. This is the largest christian gathering in the U.S. attracting more than 100,000 last year. The Second Coming: Jesus Christ is coming bodily to earth to rule and judge. Its ugly and frustrating. Dont fear what man can do to you. If someone just wanted to wear their socks and nothing else to Church they would probably not be allowed in most Churches. A new church opened their doors here recently, stating they are an IFB church. After taking in many of their services and listening to the self-ordained Pastor, and now reading this article, Ive come to some conclusions. It is also true that we have a responsibility to tell people about the gospel message, especially those who we have contact with. (And survived!) It became an independent church in 1746. NOT ONE. But anyway he says that if those folks go to Hell, that their blood would be on your hands. In 1906 there was a split with this group, some believing that there should be no musical instruments in the church (dont know where this got dreamed up, certainly didnt find it in the bible) This is when they started calling themselves the Churches of Christ. This is just too weird for me to not comment on. 13:8-10). 1 Peter 3:16, Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. As for the man having the title of pastor was a joke, he couldnt pastor an old lady across the road! If someone wanted to Tithe down to a tenth of all they owned & sell or give value of itIm sure they could. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? This directory, containing close to 10,000 churches and counting, is aimed at getting you the information you need when you need it. As for being responsible to share the gospel with those whom God has put in our path; our daily life should show we are different by our character and the way we live. He can make it without out $$$, but we need to learn to let go of it. So Im guessing that pretty much every Church other than Ivor Church has a dress code. The crime of these men was that they believed the Bible was Gods Truth, and rejected dictates of false churches and men. WebRT @reachjulieroys: A former Baptist missionary has been found guilty of sexually abusing a 4-year-old, who tested positive for gonorrhea last April Jordan Webb, affiliated with an Independent Fundamental Baptist church, could face up to 32 years in prison at his sentencing. We were doing what the pastor should have been doing. Jesus Peace, Joy, and Guidance be with us all. But wouldnt Paul himself, or the original church to whom the letter was sent, count as outside authority and control? Baptists have always been the champions of the Word of God and preaching of the Gospel. The Official Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Rulebook But there comes a time when the one kneeling at the foot of the cross drinking baby pabulum must grow up and begin desiring strong meat from the word, and that can only happen when hes in the word on his own, and doesnt rely solely on what comes from the pulpit on Sunday for his exclusive exposure to the word of God. Some of his former congregation in Salem joined him and they set up a colony. People who study dont fall so easily for false teaching. 6:30, Titus 1:9-11, II Tim. This would explain the abrasiveness with which you deliver what should be the most joyous information of the Gospel of Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalm 137:9. Later Presbyterians, Episcopalians and Methodist were added to the lists of Protestants denominations. WHAT IS AN INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTIST CHURCH? A church which cannot answer yes to all of these questions cannot historically call itself a Baptist church. That is just my pointyou I fear are dedicating a almost hate site for this denomination when its no reason tovs just warning sagnist all bad behavior. I couldnt have said it better myself Ken. Abuse Allegations Found in Fundamental Baptist Churches We must agree with John Smyth, the true New Testament church is founded on its belief and practice of the Scriptures, and not on any outward succession of a visible or invisible organization. I basically grew up in this church and when I was in my 20s, I began to feel that something was off. As for relating to other denominations and Catholocs, I believe that that is also harmful if one is not strong enough in their faith. In fact, no church on earth can make that claim. I still have an IFB church hangover and long to go back. I cannot judge this man. But they should not be confused with Fundamental Baptists. Also, as a Southern Baptist, I am wondering if your fifth distinctive disqualifies my congregation, since we are members of the Southern Baptist Convention. Particular Baptist had their beginnings around 1616, when some dissenters left the Church of England and were lead by the Rev. In my civilian life..and please do pray for our military..I am very honored to serve as Senior Pastor of Coral Ridge in Jacksonville (FL). How can I get help? | Beautiful In His Time, standing under the broken heart | Beautiful In His Time, hiding in shame, packing up my dreams | Beautiful In His Time, when you trust and obey but your heart still gets broken | Beautiful In His Time, when youve been hurt by legalism, hold onto faith | Beautiful In His Time, What do Brad Pitt, Josh Groban, and Sleepless in Seattle have in common? My husband and are very involved in different activities and are feeling very used. What you have to do is develop your own way of fellowshipping with people, worshiping God and your own personal relationship with Christ apart from the IFB while remembering that you are free from the dangerous teachings of the IFB. These first Baptist churches formed in England were Armenian in theology, which taught that all men could be saved. #itsthelittlethings #swimteammom, Legalism and Grace: How I Left the IFB Movement and Chose Grace, Encouragement and Resources for the Military Wife. You will understand that God does indeed love you, and that Gods love isnt dependent on living up to mans expectations or manipulation. Any way dont want to lie on any church. Thats NOT in the Bible anywhere! I made a very similar forgiveness plea on facebook just yesterday, asking all to forgive me if I had ever legalistically stepped on them. Many Baptist churches have Trustees, but their position was established in order to have legal signatories to sign legal documents of the church. [2] They are described by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as "a loose network of independent churches concentrated in the U.S. connected by their belief in certain religious doctrines and a shared brand of deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic teachings." Please elaborate, Should have said of course no singing with musical accompaniment.. He is not nearly as fundy as where I left from, and is learning. It sounds like you believe that we are not required to tithe, but somehow we are better off if we do? I hadnt been grounded in the word much. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. Ok how about some peace Blessed are the peacemakers I apologize for my abrasive writing style and did not purposely write to offend you, but make no mistake, someone can be dunked until they know every minnow by name, but that doesnt make them saved. When its time to leave Thoughts on breaking away. So you made assumptions based on very little. The transformation God is making in our lives makes us stand out. 16:18, concerning preserving the institution of the local church, that even the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Doctrinally sound New Testament churches have always existed from the time of Christ and the Apostles until today. The acapella voices were very beautiful, and I knew she would have enjoyed hearing them. I feel silly because some of the things I stood up for on this site are the same things that made me leave. Men meeting the Biblical qualification of deacons (servants) (1 Tim. Jesus was prophesied in the old testament. (See also Gal. This charter was the very cornerstone of American religious freedom! Pastor Scott McFeters grew up in the ministry of GPBC, was saved while in this church, was discipled, and surrendered to follow the leading of the Lord in this ministry. We should stand out because we are different. Love and enjoy your family! My best friend who professes to be Christian (she attends a Southern Baptist church), is dating an evolutionist and she tells me that religion is not high up on her criteria for dating and marriage yet she will call me, upset, and say that her boyfriend is hasseling her about her faith. How can you not see that? Not sure where to post this so lets try here. We use our monetary resources alone. Wonderful response and so very true!! Heres her plea for help and some thoughts I have on leaving the IFB: I was raise IFB I mean strict IFB! BTW, my Church of Christ neighbor and I were good friends, and looked out for each other. In this sense, any church which founds itself strictly on the New Testament teachings, is a true and Biblical church, even if it existed in time, only yesterday. The New IFB considers the modern nation of Israel to be a fraud and it also teaches that Christians rather than Jews are God's chosen people. I have transferred schools and since then Ive had to find a new church. 3:3). Our Pastor teaches that Baptism does not save us and is no a requirement of salvation. As I grew up and the years passed, I found myself on active duty in the U.S. Navy. Leaving Fundamentalism Leaving Fundamentalism Religion & Spirituality Podcast dedicated to my experiences of being a member of the Independent Smyth died in 1612, and the church ended in Holland shortly after that with Helwy, Thomas and John Murton returning to England as persecution there had lessened. I dont believe it is a Law that one has to tithe. For example, G.L. I think Lynne has been fed a large dose of legalism, and just cant seem to escape it. I still attend a tiny (20-30 on Sunday) Baptist Church, and yes it is IFB. My point is that Tithing is good since Jesus says they should not have left it undone. I still find myself being angry at what was taken from me by that church, and I am occasionally angry that those churches are still hurting people I want to say especially women, but both women and men. The name Independent Fundamental Baptist Church is used traditionally by churches which pattern themselves strictly after the example of the early church as found in the New Testament. than we pray that they will get right with God If people would only study the Word of God for themselves and stop being pew sitters and believe everything the pastor says of gospel truth theyd be able to spot a false doctrine/teacher a mile away. I believe that the Bible is clear on what is modest apparel. As you have heard from others who have commented, leaving the cult mentally behind and learning to make decisions on your own about your faith and your life takes time. Im really not sure how we didnt die. Shortly after the Church of England fell from grace when the English monarch was overthrown and the Presbyterians became the favored church of the state. The idea the bread and wine (grape juice) in the Lords Supper becoming the physical body of Christ when taken is a Roman Catholic teaching that Protestants only changed slightly. It is difficult to trace Baptist churches down through history. [6] Adam Fannin, the lead preacher at SBC's Jacksonville satellite campus, refused to acknowledge the authority of Jonathan Shelley, another Texas New IFB pastor who took over SBCFort Worth following Romero's resignation. [9][10] On the weekend of the third anniversary of the shooting, the New IFB held a "Make America Straight Again" conference at an Orlando-area New IFB church. We are so happy that we left the IFB cult and our relationship with Christ is so much more genuine and heartfelt. Romans 1:20 says that For since the creation Gods invisible qualities his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.. He was a presbyter and former deacon in the Anglican church. How did you leave how did it affect how others in the family treated you? http://www.bible-truth.org/fundbapt.htm. Im referring to a mistake I made in my fairly long comment, which you may not have seen yet, once you do youll understand I was correcting a statement in my next to last paragraph. They are guilty of not holding the Head, the Lord Jesus Christ. Hi BJ. Therefore if a church is teaching Tithe is mandatory or sin if not donethey are I believe in error. One young lady began attending a non IFB Baptist church. Throughout my journey I just kept praying keep me near the cross; there was a fear that the further I got from all the rules, the further I was getting from God. Still today, many Protestants see the Lords Supper as a sacrament, having to some degree saving properties or giving some spiritual benefit. Although the Roman Catholic Church claims him as one of their saints, there is no evidence he even knew the Catholic church existed. I am a former fundamental baptist member, I would like to request any assistance on clarification regarding the contradictions of doctrine of Paul and Jesus. So many churches have lost wonderful ministry opportunties by turning away those hurting, divorced folks, its a shame, God help us all to be sensitive to those who are hurting all around us. We never shun people who leave the church. We have been blacklisted by the church, except for a few faithful friends. Pedophiles hide in dark corners. Since you seem to be more of an authority on this, could you recommend some source material which would specifically deal with this from an IBC perspective? My dad was considerably older than my mom, his second wife. Click the link below to learn more about this incredible upcoming trip! In recent years the news media has called doctrinally unsound church such as the Charismatics and Pentecostals fundamentalists. Dear mamas, it does get easier. I have seen corruption and manipulation like you wouldnt believe. If you have any more questions or comments (as long as they are not rude), please feel free to email me again. Feel free to send me a facebook message. The point is Jesus not only did not condem it but He said it should not have been left undone. Ive read the comments and the posts. , Oak Harbor, Washington 98277). The not so fine folks at Westboro Baptist are a bunch of lunatic fringe haters that act in contrast to the love of Christ they espouse to embrace. Independent Fundamental Baptist When a congregation results from the preaching of the Gospel, authenticating that congregation as a New Testament church rests solely on its doctrine and practice.not in its affiliation. WebTwin Cities Baptist Church Independent, Fundamental, Baptist work dedicated to the edification of the believer and spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ for the Glory of God. For my part, I will continue to preach the Gospel and to teach the Word faithfully. The pastor was near inapproachable and always seemed like he didnt have time to talk to us. Although, they were not as corrupt as the Church of England, they still practiced a strict ritual of church service, a state church, and among other things, infant baptism. Everyone in the colony was automatically a member of the State church and were taxed to support it. I think any Christian should be allowed to wear what they want. I was deeply involved from the time I was 12 years old, so Im still in the deep wilderness part of my journey. 3. In the simplest of terms a true Baptist assembly is one which follows the New Testament as his sole authority for his faith and practice. The Independent Baptist believes that to join with churches who teach and practice false doctrine is condone and even show approval of Biblical error and that all doctrinal error is sin. Hi, in your opening statement use say that God has not party with them, those who operate under any systems of hierarchy set up by man over the authority of the local church. He records that five hundred others who were identified as Anabaptists were also killed in England during this period. They gave me the false impression that God was mad at me and that I wasnt a good Christian. It has in fact. I would prefer just wearing casual clothes like I do just about every time. In response to the concerns, They were in fact churches founded on the same New Testament principles that modern day Baptists traditionally founded their churches. Its nothing personal, just logic. Now when the head of a church & all dem that fall in line must appply apsotast (like openly Gay Pastor, etc) than you should have some of them on here big. Tithing is still a required act in obedience just like loving the Lord thy God and loving thy neighbor as thyself is. I feel that means I have arrived at some inexplicable motherhood milestone. May God bless Bob. In North Carolina the first Baptist church was started in the northeastern coastal region at Perquimans, in Chowan County in 1727. If lots of the Church congregation was wearing Scooby doo and sponge bob square pants costumes or swimsuits regularly to Church I would guess that some people would probably leave and look for another Church. These churches were missions minded and formed schools to train preachers and missionaries. 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(Quote from Dr. J. M. Carrolls booklet The Trail of Blood) These historians, in an attempt to show an unbroken line of Baptists in history, have embraced groups which were clearly not doctrinal sound. Ask these five questions of any church, and if they can answer all five in truth with a yes, then you will have a true Baptist church. The Baptist church that I attend used the entire Bible, all 66 books. But when a crowd gathered and pressed against Jesus, He asked Simon if He could use the fishing boat as an impromptu pulpit to teach the people. What possible value is there in appealing to a supposed unbroken line of Baptist churches as a churchs authority. Also, those who God draws will come to Christ and believe in Him. But I dont self-identify as a Baptist any longer, I simply say that Im a christian. How can we get out of this? 2 Timothy 2:15, Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 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